From: "Richard, Ioan (Councillor)" <ioan.richard@swansea.gov.uk>
To: "'M J Shrewsbury'" <mjs@headweb.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:46 PM
Subject: Returned - unwanted LIAR's spam

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From: "Richard, Ioan (Councillor)" <ioan.richard@swansea.gov.uk>
To: "'M J Shrewsbury'" <info@brooklandsclinic.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:57 AM
Subject: RE: blog
> blogspot you refer to has absolutely NOTHING to do with me as I can barely> send e mails - the site has obviously been set up by others who see you as a> buffoon

Thursday August 5 2004

From: "Richard, Ioan (Councillor)" ioan.richard@swansea.gov.ukTo: "'M J Shrewsbury'" mjs@headweb.co.uk>Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:09 PMSubject: your challenge> Martin, I accept your challenge of debate - but in a Council chamber - when (probably never!) you can win a seat on a Council - to prove you are not the nutty mumbo jumbo lack of FACTS group of pseudo "greens" you claim to be - at Community or City & County Council chamber level of debate - I cannot spare the time to debate with abusive pseudos who probably hold meetings in tiny telephone type kiosks and have no public poll support whatsoever - your polls records are so abysmal - reminds me of LordSutch - but at least he was a real person who told the truth and did not abuse his own home city as "an Ashtray of a place" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your abuse - "yellow" and "clique" and "ashtray of a city" is quite pathetic.

Hope to seeyou on Mynydd y Gwair amongst REAL folk on 28-8-04. Grow up and get real and seek counselling if you cannot recall calling Swansea "an ashtray of a place best to be avoided" - you must apologisefor that , I see weaknesses in your raging - spelling mistakes etc. in your e mails to me !

From: "Richard, Ioan (Councillor)" <ioan.richard@swansea.gov.uk To: "'M J Shrewsbury'" <mjs@brooklandsclinic.co.uk Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 4:43 PM Subject: You've too much wind ! Martin I think you need some help e.g. counselling - you seem toforget that YOU did agree with that description of Swansea as "an Ashtray ofa city" so it's not for me or any "clique" , as you so rudely put it, to stop it - if you think it is already so, then admit how rude you were to Swansea. You cannot debate anything, you've failed to answer several letters of> > mine in the "POST" or several challenges on Radio from Jac Harris. This latest diatribe below is not an "answer" only a cheap broadside again - distracting from the challenges of WE WANT YOUR FACTS ! You and your party did so abysmally in the recent Polls that I think I may have better things to do with my time on real issues than debate with you on the myths you seek to perpetuate.

Can you explain how Climate Change has always been, yetnow it's called "Global warming" (see raised beaches in Gower and submerged forests in Swansea Bay). What scientific background do you have? In your response to Jac Harris you referred to your "30 years political experience" - that is simply pushing your petty futile "green" leaflets through letterboxes of leafy suburbs - what an experience to draw upon - our newspaperroundsman has an equal experience as you. Whereas Jac Harris has spent nearly FORTY years in the electrical business - TWENTY SEVEN YEARS as a top Consultant Engineer in all forms of electrical production - YES - all forms - and you think that you delivering leaflets beats that. I have spent seventeen years in Technical work in heavy industry and know of the Power demands in coal and steel production - for SEVEN years I worked a Steel Rolling Mill - that consumed VAST amounts of electricity on instant demand (apart from 23 years Science teaching).

Have you ever worked in the real world of industry? If so get real about electrical usage. May I suggest you invite Professor Loveluck to Swansea for a debate on future Power Production - after all he is the main Green guru in the UK who now advocates with our Government areturn> to nuclear (something Jac may also advocate, but something I have mixed feelings about). When are you going to protest to your neighbours in that cosy leafy suburb you live in that they should not be driving their massive 4X4 vehicles on the school runs? I am busy with my work as a real politician here in our City & County doing a real job of things. Can you come on Radio next Sunday and apologise to Swansea for YOU calling it "an Ashtray ofa place to be avoided". We will continue to press this until you apologise to our people

From: "Richard, Ioan (Councillor)" Ioan.richard@swansea.gov.ukTo: "'M J Shrewsbury'" mjs@headweb.co.ukSent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:25 PMSubject: RE: your challenge I've had loads of congratulatory phone calls after making "mince meat" of you on last Sunday's hotline discussion / debate. Thanks for the opportunity. People are even stopping me in the street here to congratulate me. When are you going to apologise for the "ashtray" comments. We willcontinue to press this as long as Editors and Radio producers and other platforms> allow us - yes continue and continue - OK over and out !

Friday August 20 2004

From: "Richard, Ioan (Councillor)" ioan.richard@swansea.gov.uk>To: mjs@brooklandsclinic.co.ukSent: Friday, August 20, 2004 7:49 PMSubject: Cycling to WorkInstead of peddling lies about me and nuclear energy your lot may like to support me with an issue I've been pressing Swansea Council since its reorganisation in 1996 - only to be ridiculed then at that time by the likes of the trendy Veronica Wood (she said it was not needed as there were TWO single shower cubicles in County Hall for people to use - thankfully she's> off the Council now) - see below - I've risen it again now as there is a change of regime :-

Friday October 29 2004

From: "Richard, Ioan (Councillor)" ioan.richard@swansea.gov.ukTo: "'M J Shrewsbury'" mjs@headweb.co.ukSent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:00 AMSubject: RE: Ioan`s blood pressureThe Appendices are in hard copy and I have no scanner - anyway you don'tneed them - as YOU KNOW THE LIES are LIES as you LIED -- LIAR ! When I publish the full document I challenge you to take me to the HighCourt for defamation - I'd win on "Fair Comment" anyday. Anyway there's nolegal aid for defamation cases and costs are minimum £25,000 - are youprepared for that?

From: "Richard, Ioan (Councillor)" ioan.richard@swansea.gov.uk

From: "Richard, Ioan (Councillor)" ioan.richard@swansea.gov.uk To: "'M J Shrewsbury'" mjs@headweb.co.ukSent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:00 AMSubject: RE: Ioan`s blood pressureThe Appendices are in hard copy and I have no scanner - anyway you don'tneed them - as YOU KNOW THE LIES are LIES as you LIED -- LIAR ! When I publish the full document I challenge you to take me to the HighCourt for defamation - I'd win on "Fair Comment" anyday. Anyway there's nolegal aid for defamation cases and costs are minimum £25,000 - are youprepared for that?

Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 11:16 AM

Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 11:16 AMSubject: Martyn Shrewsbury> TO MARTYN SHREWSBURY :- Please Mr LIAR Shrewsbury stop sending me garbage> SPAM and stick to the truth in future when you open your mouth on radio.>

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 10:39 PM

From: "Richard, Ioan (Councillor)" ioan.richard@swansea.gov.ukTo: "'M J Shrewsbury'" mjs@headweb.co.ukSent: MSubject: RE: Peter Tatchell comes to Swansea I must go to my local Library tomorrow to get Peter Tatchell's address (out of the book "Who's Who?" or some other source) to forewarn him how the Leader of the Wales "Green" Party is a proven LIAR - as in my well circulated dossier. When Tatchell gets a spare copy of this dossier he may> not wish to be associated with LIARS in Swansea !

From: "Richard, Ioan (Councillor)" ioan.richard@swansea.gov.uk

From: "Richard, Ioan (Councillor)" ioan.richard@swansea.gov.uk>To: "'M J Shrewsbury'" mjs@headweb.co.ukSent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 10:39 PMSubject: Journalists and the LIAR Who are you speaking to? They are in hysterics about you ! The point is you are a LIAR - I tell everyone you are a LIAR - I've printed it everywhere - I challenge you to take me to court for DEFAMATION - YOU LIAR !>> ----------

From Ioan Saturday February 4 2005

When will you get it through your numb stupid skull that Wind and Nuclearare not choices as Wind can never replace nuclear and if we spent more timechasing realistic energy programmes we would not end up with nuclear. Thereal people who will drive us in to nuclear are going to be the windadvocates like YOU the "Green" Party of LIARS and Plaid Cymru and the likesof Andrew Davies in Labour - THE LIKES OF YOU WILL DRIVE US IN TO NUCLEAR !Yes the "Green NukeLIARS" !!!